This is a great example when people who do not believe their translation build doctrines on things not clear! I think they know Calvinism better than their Bible!

KW PCtek

It's kind of hard to hear you past all that Graceless anger bro.. Why not show up and fellowship with about 50 of us in chat on the Grace Life Podcast in Orlando at 10am weekdays and see what Grace looks like in action? I'd say you've got RD fairly well buttoned down, but you need to loose that old twisted belief that "all men are born sinners". That's just a tool of Ray Comfort and a variant of the RCC "original sin" or Calvinist/Arminian "total depravity". The Bible teaches we have a location problem and we are born separated from God in a fallen world which is enemy territory and we're prone to wander, but there is an age of accountability (God knoweth with each). Paul says in Rom 7:9 "I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.” (that's the time when he understood his relation to the Law). We get some more examples of this with Jesus when he says "let the little ones come unto me, for such are.." and Paul when he talks about us being under tutors and governors until the time, and also those under 20 in the OT as being 1) not allowed to bring a sacrifice to the temple for their own sins, 2) not allowed to go to war 3) not allowed to do temple service 4) not included as guilty in the sins of Israel while those over 20 had to die in the wilderness before the nation could be led into the promised land.

Unfortunately, another person (email above) who is not a Bible believer! (Hopefully they know there is more than one gospel in their translation) Age of accountability is not in your Bible! Original sin is not in your Bible! Rapture, sovereign, trinity is not Biblical! Location problem? No!Doctrinal problem!


When you are not a Bible believer you make up doctrines like Age of Accountability and you line up with other cults like the Mormons! Better yet you debate these false doctrines with people like John MacArthur and James Dobson! No thanks!


You will find it in the book of Alma! The Church of Latter-day saints!


The Age of Accountability

“Lesson 27: The Age of Accountability,” Primary 3 (1994), 128–33


To help the children understand that at the age of eight they begin to become accountable for their actions.


  1. Prayerfully study Alma 23 and 24.

  2. Bring some money to be used in the role play, or make some play money.

  3. Prepare to sing or say with the children the words to “Dare to Do Right” (Children’s Songbook, p. 158); the words are included at the back of this manual.

  4. Materials needed:

    1. A Book of Mormon for each child who can read.

    2. An article of baby clothing, such as a shoe, hat, or sweater.

    3. Optional (use this activity only if you feel it is helpful and you are able to obtain these items without great expense): a book, a ball, and a bag of candy or other appropriate food.

    4. Chalk, chalkboard, and eraser.

    5. Picture 3-54, The Anti-Nephi-Lehies Burying Their Swords (62565; Gospel Art Picture Kit 311).

  5. Make the necessary preparations for any enrichment activities that you will be using.

Suggested Lesson Development

Invite a child to give the opening prayer.

Follow up with the children if you encouraged them to do something during the week.

When We Are Eight, We Are Accountable ( What about 20?)


I’m a Bible believer! The verses in my 1769 King James Bible are clear!


Born in the likeness of Adam!


Ge 5:3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:


Shapen in iniquity, in sin conceived!


Ps 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.


All have sinned!


Ro 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;


We are the sinners Christ died for!


Ro 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.


Christ became sin for us!


2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.


By the way, thanks for the compliment! (It's kind of hard to hear you past all that Graceless anger bro..)This is a typical comment when someone isn’t a Pauline Bible Believer!

Don't call me bro!


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